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Ockham borotvája

2012.06.06

 

 

 

 

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Ockham borotvája

Ez egy olyan filozófiai elv, amit nem is Ockham talált ki, és nem is kell hozzá igazi borotva. Akkor szoktuk használni, amikor két történés közül kell kiválasztanunk a leginkább lehetségest. Az elvet szinte minden olyan területen alkalmazzák, ahol ”dönteni kell” de nincs mi alapján. Ennél persze sokkal bonyolultabb a történet…

 

Ockham

guillermo-de-ockham.jpgWilliam Ockham 1300 körül élt, és a világmindenség nagy kérdéseire próbált logikus válaszokat találni. Nem keltett ez akkoriban nagyobb feltűnést a filozófusok között, inkább az okozhatott gondot, amikor teológiai kérdésekre is kivetette az általa alkalmazott elveket. Miután az egyházból kiközösítették, IV Lajostól kért menedéket, továbbiakban politikáról és teológiáról írt.

 

Az elv

Két fő elvet tulajdonítanak neki, az egyik a mindenhatóság elve, a másik a gazdaságossági elv, ez utóbbi lenne a borotvához kapcsolodó.

 

De miért borotva?

"Borotvával hasítsuk ketté a szükségtelen hipotéziseket!" Állítólag így fogalmazott Ockham, mikor a gazdaságossági elvet bizonygatta. Maga az elv már létezett, Ockham csak felhasználta azt, de annyiszor és olyan sok formában, hogy idővel az ő nevéhez kötődött. A borotva, lehetne olló, vagy radír, vagy bármi ami kivonja a létezésből a szükségtelen feltételezéseket.

 

Mert mi az a gazdaságossági elv?

ockham-s-razor.gifErről bezzeg olvashatunk oldalakon át, különböző tudományos, néha egészen elvont témakörökben, és számtalan példával magyarázva, ameddig a végén a megértésből eljuthatunk, a mégsem egészen érthető, sőt igencsak ellenmondásos, aztán nagyon zavaros és egészen érthetetlen állapotig is.

Ocham borotvája, a gazdaságossági elv, a szükségtelen többlet elve, a logikai borotva, a takarékosság elve, a tömörség elve elnevezéseivel is ugyan azt a tételt fogalmazza meg:  A sokaság szükségtelenül nem tételezendő! Tehát ha egy tény, két különböző, de logikus további tényezőkre vezethető vissza, akkor azt kell választanunk, amiben kevesebb plusz feltételezés szükséges a magyarázathoz. Aki nem hiszi, járjon utána:

http://mek.oszk.hu/05200/05243/05243.htm

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam_borotv%C3%A1ja

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Érdekességek

A jó tétel minden időben, és minden helyzetben alkalmazható, így olyan témakörökben is találkozhatunk vele, amiről a 14. században még nem sokat tudhattak az emberek.

http://www.csatolna.hu/hu/erdekes/CsA/erdekes2125.htm

 

William of Ockham

vagy más írásmóddal Occam (1285?-1349) egy angol ferencesrendi barát volt, a 14. századi skolasztikus teológia és filozófia jeles képviselője. Nevéhez fűződik a híres elv, amit Occam borotvájaként említenek és alkalmaznak még ma is a különféle tudományok művelői. Nevét utca és penzió őrzi Münchenben, ahol öregkorában élt. De viseli egy programnyelv is, amelyet sokprocesszoros rendszerek párhuzamos műveleteihez fejlesztettek ki.

Éles esze úgy vágott, mint a borotva, amikor kitalálta, hogy: Non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem. Talán jobban érthető így: Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora. Neeem? Akkor próbáljuk egy újabb változatban: Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate. Már világos, ugye? Ha most sem, sebaj - nézzük, kik és hogyan használják, értelmezik:

  • A filozófus. Ateista válaszok a hívők tipikus kérdéseire - Occam borotvája. Ne szaporítsd szükségtelenül az entitásokat. Tehát: ha valamit meg tudsz magyarázni egy bizonyos entitás létezésének feltételezése nélkül, akkor tedd azt. Mindig a legegyszerűbb megoldást kell választani.
  • A vegyész. Sejtelem és Ockham borotvája. Hiábavaló többhöz folyamodnunk, amikor kevesebbel is megtehetjük ugyanazt.
  • A csillagász. Hale személyes nyilatkozata az UFÓkról. Ha egy jelenségre több lehetséges magyarázat létezik, mindig a legegyszerűbbet kell választani, amely az összes megfigyelt tényről számot ad.
  • A fizikus. What is Occam's razor? Keep it simple, stupid. (Ne bonyolítsd el, te hülye! ford. CsA) Az egyszerűség elve egy heurisztika, egy ökölszabály, de sokan a fizika egy axiómájának tekintik. Nem az. Egész jól működik a filozófiában és a részecskefizikában, néha a kozmológiában vagy a pszichológiában is, ahol a dolgok várakozáson felül elbonyolódhatnak. De itt már talán egy Hamlet idézet többet ér, mint Occam borotvája: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." (Több dolgok vannak földön és égen, Horatio, mintsem bölcselmetek álmodni képes. ford. Arany J.)
  • Az informatikus. Hogyan működik a tudomány? A tudományos problémák megoldásánál az Occam borotvája nevű elvet használják. Az elv a konkurrens elméletek közül azt fogadja el, amely kevesebb előfeltételezést igényel.
  • A mesterséges intelligencia kutató. Occam - Eine planungsbasierte Informations-Beschaffungsmaschine A gépesített cselekvéstervezés folyamatában alkalmazzák az elvet, annak érdekében, hogy a különféle információs forrásokból adatgyűjtéssel a legegyszerűbb és legolcsóbban végrehajtható tervhez jussanak. Az internetes metakeresők programjainak alapjaiban ugyancsak felbukkan az Occam elv és a belőle kifejlesztett algoritmus.
  • Az Encyclopedia Britannica. Ockham's razor. Law of economy or Law of parsimony (a takarékosság vagy zsugoriság törvénye).

OK, már érthető. Szóval Occam borotvájával le lehet nyisszantani a gondolkodásból a fölösleget, a terjengősséget. Be is fejezem.

És ismét egy félrefordítás (Leiter Jakab után), az Ockham-féle borotva, ahol az elvek márkanevekké változnak: http://leiterjakab.blog.hu/2011/08/29/az_occam_fele_borotva

 

 

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